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Spotted in this months C&SC...

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:50 pm
by techbod
Picture in this months C&SC of the 'Readers Run' line up at Brooklands on the way to the LMC. Sitting at the front nearest the camera is GNT ***N?
Is that Anyone here?

Re: Spotted in this months C&SC...

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:30 pm
by erictharg
Don't recognise it. "N" reg is c.1975 too, so unusual for an Eleven. Maybe chosen for the "GNT" bit?

Re: Spotted in this months C&SC...

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:52 am
by techbod
Actually squinting hard at the picture (it is small) it could be an "M" so a year earlier than that.

I wonder if before current regs it was possible to keep the donor midget reg if it fulfilled certain critera? (Westfield appear to have similar plates with some of their builds, for example : http://www.westfield-sportscars.co.uk/showroom.html). Current regs appear to suggest it would be tricky for the Eleven kit: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Bu ... G_10014246 though in the recesses of my memory I recall it might have been possible once upon a time

Re: Spotted in this months C&SC...

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:47 pm
by erictharg
I can't think of a kit that uses a bigger percentage of it's donor car than the Eleven. And for sure when I registered mine there was no question of keeping the original reg no. Mainly I think because the govt want to collect numbers to add to their pile of "cherished" numbers to sell. No doubt we'll track him /her down at some point...

Re: Spotted in this months C&SC...

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:38 pm
by techbod
D. Kit Conversions
This is where a kit of new parts is added to an existing vehicle or old parts are added to a kit comprising a manufactured body/chassis/monocoque bodyshell. The general appearance of the vehicle will change and result in a revised description on the registration document.

A vehicle will retain its donor registration mark if either the original unmodified chassis or unaltered monocoque bodyshell and two other major components are used.

If a new monocoque bodyshell or chassis from a specialist kit manufacturer is used (or an altered chassis/bodyshell from an existing vehicle) together with two major components from a donor vehicle, an age related mark will be assigned. The mark will be based on the age of the donor vehicle. An SVA test will be required to register the vehicle.

Where there are insufficient parts from a donor vehicle or in cases where the original registration mark is unknown, an SVA certificate will be required to register the vehicle and a 'Q' prefix registration number will be allocated.]
"an age related mark will be assigned. The mark will be based on the age of the donor vehicle" says it all really. As you say, if they like the look of the donor plate they will have it off you and give you a boring one , though from the same year...

Some people appear to have been lucky and kept the original though: http://www.snapsandbytes.co.uk/wheels.html documenting someone's Robin Hood build.
Donor vehicle:
1986 (C Reg.) Ford Sierra 2.0 GL in red. Bought without M.O.T. or road tax in May 1997 for £300 with perhaps 52,000 genuine miles (based on the condition of the seats, pedal rubbers and seatbelts, all of which were ‘as new’), some light rust and just two registered owners from new. I made back over half the purchase price through the sale of the front seats, headlights, tow-bar and other items I didn’t need via my local paper, which funded new engine ancillaries such as alternator and starter motor. The ‘hood retained the Reg. number (rather than getting a Q-Reg.) as it had enough Ford in it.