I had to do some maintenance of my front hub bearings. In taking off the the upright, I noticed that the U bracket was bent in quite a lot and that the poly bushes were badly squished. I thought I would get some new bushes and sort it out. I ordered new MG midget bushes from MGOC (here in the UK), but they are the wrong size. The originals on the car have a 5/8" OD crush tube for a 1/2" bolt (ID in the poly bushes 5/8"). The MG midget ones have a 1/2" ID.
Then I also wanted to change one of the stub axle assemblies as it had an issue, so I got one from MGOC (sent the old one back as it was an exchange unit).
So now I notice that the top trunnions are different dimensions. The original is a bigger (tapered) ID than the replacement MG Midget one.
So there's clearly stuff going on that I don't understand! I can't ask the factory for the obvious reason. Is it something like an MG Midget upright assembly with a different top trunnion - MGB maybe?
Any and all help gratefully accepted - thanks!
Graham
Top trunnion confusion
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gridgway
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Re: Top trunnion confusion
So to update a little. I have been checking with the MGOC Spares people.
In summary I have two stub axle assemblies with different size top trunnions. They say that there was only ever one size on the Midget - the smaller tapered ID one. I sked if the bigger one could have come from something else like the MGB, but that has a different king pin size, so it's not that.
So not much further on really!
In summary I have two stub axle assemblies with different size top trunnions. They say that there was only ever one size on the Midget - the smaller tapered ID one. I sked if the bigger one could have come from something else like the MGB, but that has a different king pin size, so it's not that.
So not much further on really!
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Euan Hoosearmy
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Re: Top trunnion confusion
If MGOC supplied you with odd replacement parts that don't fit, surely it's on them to supply the right bits.
When I received my bushes, I was confused as they didn't have a crush tube but one was mentioned in the instructions - this is the reply I received from MGOC on the subject:
"Autobush only include distance tubes where required. You should find that the bushes supplied are a snug fit on the fulcrum pin.
Unfortunately, they include a generic instruction sheet, which confuses." The bushes are a very snug fit on the 1/2 inch bolts.
When I received my bushes, I was confused as they didn't have a crush tube but one was mentioned in the instructions - this is the reply I received from MGOC on the subject:
"Autobush only include distance tubes where required. You should find that the bushes supplied are a snug fit on the fulcrum pin.
Unfortunately, they include a generic instruction sheet, which confuses." The bushes are a very snug fit on the 1/2 inch bolts.
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gridgway
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Re: Top trunnion confusion
I'm pretty sure what I have been supplied is standard MG Midget kit. It's what I had on the XI that is not standard!
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jonclancy
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Re: Top trunnion confusion
I’m afraid I can”t add any more to this, because I didn’t build my car. Is there any possibility of adding some photos, please?
Can they return your original stub axle assembly and you replace the kingpin etc?
Can they return your original stub axle assembly and you replace the kingpin etc?
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gridgway
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Re: Top trunnion confusion
Looks the same as a standard one, just a bigger internal taper
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gridgway
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Re: Top trunnion confusion
I have a solution that will work. A fabricator friend has turned down a standard set of MGB polybushes to fit the MG Midget trunnions so I'll get a standard MG Midget trunnion and put it all back together. If I ever solve the mystery of the bigger trunnion, I'll restore to what it was.
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jonclancy
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Re: Top trunnion confusion
Glad you got that sorted,Graham.
A quick question: do your trunnions have different part numbers cast into them, please?
Just wondering if there is a (significant) difference li.e. as there is with the BTA 648/649 Fat Rack steering arms, and the later AHA Thin Rack Triumph items).
I see you have 2A4005 in the pic.
A quick question: do your trunnions have different part numbers cast into them, please?
Just wondering if there is a (significant) difference li.e. as there is with the BTA 648/649 Fat Rack steering arms, and the later AHA Thin Rack Triumph items).
I see you have 2A4005 in the pic.